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house to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama and congress it will be thursday before talks resume to try and prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect january first. andrew spencer has the latest. >> some republican lawmakers say old, once the country to fall off the physical cliff. >> we have gone over the cliff now, later, the fiscal cliff-you cannot negotiate with some of that does not want to negotiate. >> john boehner failed to get enough votes were planned beat that would raise taxes for people earning more than $1 million. the speaker, and the president left town without making a deal. >> i have passed leaders of congress to work together to create a deal to protect and employment for 2 million americans, protect middle america the middle income americans and also work on deficit reduction. >> the president solution would still leave red ink as far as the eye could see. and difficult for jobs. >> this is it difficult for the brink of perpetual gridlock. >> this is likely that we will go over the fiscal cliff and not and if we allow that to happen. wou
hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over the fiscal cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight east coast time income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 5:15 the two men leading the last minute negotiations. >>> the chp is trying to figure out what led up to a crash that killed a motorcycle rider in concord last night. it happened just before 6:30 on kicker pass road. the chp says no other cars were involved and it's unclear why the driver lost control. >>> three people are recovering after a crash after a car crashed into a concord funeral home. it happened yesterday afternoon at the we met brothers concord funeral chop ill on clayton road. it appears two teens were racing when they lost control and crashed their car into the building. the teens were taken to the hospital with serious injuries. a 66-year-old man who was inside the building has a broken leg. police interviewed a second driver that may have been racing the teens but have no arrests yet. >>> police officers are o
're getting your thoughts, and we want to hear your message to congress on the fiscal cliff negotiations. the politico story mentioned what was happening on saturday evening on capitol hill. here is the washington post -- the washington post also offers a handy time line of what is set to happen today in the countdown to the cliff. at 1:00 p.m., the senate is set to reconvene. at 2:00 p.m., the house reopens. -- tonight or tomorrow, on monday -- that is our schedule, the fiscal cliff count down today. i want to turn out to nancy cook of the national journal. she is here to give us -- give us all the latest. her latest story -- and the cook, thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. we are at this late hour. all of these tax hikes and spending cuts are slated to take defect in the new year. congress and the white house had spent seven weeks of bickering over all these different elements of the this clip. as you know, there are many elements. many tax provisions, a lot of spending cuts, and at this point, any deal that is reached will not deal with a lot of these things. it
the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our benefits are going to have to be lower than they really are -- i am in that bracket of $125,000 to $250,000. i am very comfortable, i could contribute more to the deficit, i just want to make sure that that money goes to
the break, not just the fiscal cliff, other big issues congress has to deal with, including a debt ceiling in a matter of weeks, if we can't get past the cliff, i guess what i'm going to ask you, ron is how much hope do we have that congress can tackle these other huge issues? >> well, look, i think that's the big story here. the context wit fiscal cliff and all of this has to be seen. it is whether red america and blue america are following mediate their differences and find reasonable compromises to move forward. we know democrats have won the popular vote five of the last six times for the presidency. they have kind of a structural advantage, i believe, and demographic change. we know republicans have an advantage in the house the way the population distributed. we know for at least the next two years, probably the next four years, going to have divide government. none of us are going away and really, you know, watching the inability to make this deal is ominous the next two years because it suggests that neither side, but i think probably more of the republicans, but neither side entir
cover but has seen an impact as the fiscal cliff approaches. congress may be able to avoid the starry cliff. they're set to temporarily extend the u.s. farm bill. the move would keep a long dormant milk subsidy from coming back to life when the current bill expires today. under a new law, the milk could be forced at prices well above what farmers are getting now if that subsidy was pushed aside. let's get a look at what's on the agenda this week in the u.s. there is no data out today and markets will put in a full trading session on wednesday. thursday is the adp employment report and weekly jobless claims. friday brings the december payroll numbers. we also get ism services and factory orders. plenty of data there. it will be quite a busy week. from all of us here at "worldwide exchange," happy early new year. on that note, we want to know if you made any resolutions, trade or otherwise on what you plan to do for 2013? send them in. tweet us or reach us individually. just after the break, we take a look at mu ni bonds. how do investors feel about this asset class next year? we'll hav
should go over the fiscal cliff. congress and the senate should go back to the last legally passed budget and whatever money was appropriated, that is what we should appropriate for spending. if i didn't do my job for four years, i would have been fired. why are they able to keep getting paid? there should be something in the law that would say their benefits would stop. they should have their own pension fund. if their pension was the same as a people that work for, social security will not be going bankrupt. host: we will continue to track the work of congress. house and senate come back into session tomorrow. there could be sessions this weekend. the new congress comes in next week. we will have plenty of coverage as the new congress comes into session. we're still hearing about the change in filibuster rules in the senate. we will be there to cover it all. the house is here on c-span. we will be interviewing some retiring members of congress tonight. they are dan burton and kent conrad. here is what they had to say. [video clip] >> i would like people to think that he believed in hone
cliff and if congress doesn't act soon the the u.s. economy could take a nosedive right off it. all this have comes as capitol hill, could a value-added tax be in the pipeline? are we slowly turning to europe. david, good to see you. and we already see us moving in terms of spending to the european model. will we move in terms of tax policy to the european model, specifically to a value-added tax like they have in most of europe? >> personally i think we should. >> on top of what we have, on top of an income tax. >> we need to cut back and what i would cut back is replacement for the medicare tax, but also, corporate tax rates should be part of the deal, too. >> what frightened milton friedman the value added tax. there's no way it would replace it, it would always be tacked on top of other tacks and look at the history and that tends to be the way we go. >> although when the europeans brought it in they did cut the other taxes. >> that didn't last long and we've seen them come up recently. >> and it's going to continue because they've got budget problems. david: now the problem tha
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to avoid the fiscal cliff rapidly approaches. president obama says he's optimistic that congress will reach a deal in time. chris mozingo has the story. >> reporter: converses running out of time if before the economy will go over the fiscal cliff. they say that reaching a deal will not be easy. >> we cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to the economy. the people that you sent to washington half to do with their jobs. >> mitch mcconnell was are riding on capitol hill just hours before meeting with obama. >> we are going to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful and optimistic. >> politicians on both sides have the responsibility but the president's tax hike will not do much to address the debt. >> the top 25 of american will not even pay one-third of the annual interest that is owed for this 16 trillion dollar debt. >> washington will return before the end of the year but they are likely to be burning the midnight oil. >>> we'll take a quick break on kron 4 news weekend. but first, let's take a live look outside at san francisco from our roof cam here on van
to head back to washington and jump-start the fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointin
of that looming fiscal cliff. 15 hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over that cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 6:15 the new numbers that are being thrown around this morning. >>> it is 6:07. starting tomorrow alameda county grocery stores and most other stores that sell food or alcohol cannot distribute plastic bags to their customers. in place of the single use bags stores are allowed to use paper or reusable bags but they have to charge at least a dime for each bag. customers are being encouraged to bring their own bags when shopping. restaurants can still provide plastic bags to customers. >> i'm trying to remember. >> some of the places i go they give you a discount. they give you five cents if you bring your own bag. >>> time now 6:08. tara is back to talk about your commute. you're also telling us about free rides for new years eve. >> that is right. muni is free from 8:00 tonight until 6:00 tomorrow morning.
to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. dagen: with the president and congress on a christmas break, will they miss their year end deadline? peter barnes? peter: just got a note from one of the speaker's spokes people he said the speaker and the president have not spoken since that phone call on friday. all eyes are now on the senate when it returns on thursday to try to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this past friday before the president left for his family vacation in hawaii, he proposed a limited measure to avoid all of the cliff when speaker boehner scuttled his plan b, the president wants to extend the bush tax cuts now for the middle class and try to avoid some of these deep spending cuts on january 1st. a white house spokesperson says today that staff discussions continue between the administration and the hill. in july you may recall the senate democrats passed an extension of the middle class tax cuts if r a year at a -- for a year at a cost of 157 billion. that bill also patched the alternative minimum tax for 2012 for 92 billion, but it went nowhere after that. sen
of joe manchin as congress prepares to meet again today with the fiscal cliff looming. good morning. the deadline is here and the countdown is down two hours instead of days. the first time since 1970, congress is meeting between the christmas and new year's holiday. preparations are underway as lawmakers -- if lawmakers fail to act. we are 17 hours until the deadline. midnight is the deadline east coast time. here are the numbers. host: also, send us an e-mail and jonas on facebook, -- join us on facebook or you can send us a tweet. let's take a scan of the headlines and we begin with "the atlanta journal-constitution." a lot of talking but still no votes. the deadline has come and gone. one last day for a fiscal deal is the headline from "the boston globe." we are also keeping an eye on wall street. the markets are queasy. from the headlines "the wall street journal." host: a lot of activity on the house and senate chamber. we will be falling all of that on the c-span networks. we have the deputy white house editor from politico. tell us where we stand. guest: we stand in limbo,
, republicans in congress tackle fiscal cliff. the most visible former elected official in the tea party and, of course, chairman of freedom works tried to oust several freedom works officials this fall. in fact, according to the post, army thieves control momentarily of the group. and he brought a gun carrying aide to remove rivals within the organization. but within a week, army was out. freedom works arranged an $8 million pay page for him. $8 million. that is more than the organization's entire annual budget in some years. over in the house, several tea party allies were recently stripped of their committee assignments by speaker boehner. so there are some problems there at the top. an influential conservative is lashing out. >> the tea party is going of to look at itself. it's been so helpful to the republican party in the past. it saved i by not going third party in 2010, helping the republicans sweep the house. but the tea party style of rage is not one that wins over convertes and makes people lean toward them and say, i want to listen to you. >> so there is some real trouble there f
on cups to push members of congress to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. shultz followed up with a blog saying everyone should put the pressure on congress. >>> a cartoonist went a more pessimistic approach. a box labeled deficit crisis compromised saying do not open until with all the holidays crossed out signed by boehner and obama. >>> all featured on politico's list of the top viral videos of 2012. the politico ones, of course. here's a look back. >> in the silvery moonlight that bathes every town, the people lie dreaming so safe and so sound. they're warm in their beds, snuggled up in the sheets. but four years before, they were out in the streets. sorry, my friend, but there's no time to snore. we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> there's only one thing that might deny us the presidency that is the god-given property and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> there's only one thing that might den
for us to go over the fiscal cliff and then taxes will rise, right, but then congress will reconvene on january 3rd and vote to cut taxes. is that appliable solution in your mind? >> it kind of it, pretty much what i feel will happen. they have a little bit of wiggle room. the majority of this is not going to be felt until 2014 for the majority of the income tax rise so that causes congress to force them to make a deal knowing that we actually are operating under a higher tax rate right now, even though americans won't feel it, so it's almost like an additional leverage for those who actually want to make a deal and get something done. i just want somebody, like starbucks, we all need to come together. >> and quit kicking the can down the road, darn it. >> exactly. >> ryan thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> ryan has been with us all week tackling the fiscal effects on your pocketbook. tomorrow, what the fiscal cliff means for your retirement. >>> from the strange case of the technology pioneer john mcafee on the run to so many tragic shootings, we have the top
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the list. >>> and congress, running out of time to stop the u.s. economy from going over the fiscal cliff. jamie dupree is in washington, d.c. where new numbers are being tossed around this morning. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad was snoring on the couch, we muscled through it. is she for real? your generation has it made. [ male announcer ] the wireless receiver only from at&t u-verse. get u-verse tv for $29 a month for six months. rethink possible. >>> stocks are mixed. they were found for a while. that would be down for the fifth day in a row. the five-day losing streak for the dow would be the longest since july. the dow you can see it's turned positive. it's up just slightly. the nasdaq is also up 22. s&p down 4. now, u.s. stocks are not the only indexes affected. the major european indexes are d
with the president and key congressional leaders. >> thank you. if the fiscal cliff can be avoided there is another gigantic hurdle awaiting the lawmakers. >> they will hit the credit limit of $16.4 trillion on december 31. the nation thereafter can't pay the bills unless congress raises the limit. >> with a new congress in january we need to revisit an finally give ourselves the determination to solve not only our short-term debt but the long-term debt. >> they raised the debt limit 11 times in a decade. most recently in august 2011 after a bruising political fight. democrats accuse republicans of using the debt limit as political "leverage" to press for spending cuts. a point they tried to make with a jarring comparison. >> this is somewhat to taking your child hos tam and saying i'll shoot my child if you don't do what i want done. you don't want to shoot your child. no leader wants to default on the debt. >> they said there is breathing room and the treasury department will take extraordinary measures authorized by law. that will create head room under the debt limit. under normal circumstances
the fiscal cliff people here will be hard hit. prop 30 voted into law in november will mean higher sales taxes and higher income taxes on the states top earners. the fiscal cliff would add to that. hitting all americans with higher taxes. the lowest income folks will see their take home pay shrink just over 3.5%. average earners 4% and top earners 6%. >>> the crystal ball that drops in new york's time square will have a little something extra this year. workers are already installing the 288 crystal panels. one of them is a little different from the rest. it's engraved with the name of dick clark. he hosted the new years eve telecast from time square for 40 years. this year's show will be hosted by ryan sea crest. >>> time now 6:26. let's go to tara. she is covering traffic. there is something going on in marin. >> yeah pretty minor thing. 101 northbound at highway 37 this is in novato. we have a stalled vehicle or someone that spun out. chp has not figured that out yet. right now let's take a live look at down in the south bay. 280 at the 880 split headlight there is are northbound traf
at a las vegas casino. >>> if president obama and congress are not able to avoid the fiscal cliff, people here in colorado will be especial lip hard hit-- people here in california will be especially hard hit. higher sales taxes and income taxes on the top earners. the fiscal cliff would hit all of that. >> i don't know if there is a word to describe how mad the public is going to be. nobody is going to be happy to see that happen. >> if taxes go up on everybody; it will not be a happy time. i think that is what will happen. >> meanwhile the tax policy center says they will see their take home pay shrink just over 3.6%. >>> at a time when people were mourning the horrible sandy hook shooting one new york woman took advantage of that sympathetic spirit by allegedly setting up a charity scam in connection to that tragedy. 37-year-old noel alba set up an internet scam claiming to be the aunt of six-year-old noah pozner. no a's uncle says he is disgusted someone would do this. >> my nieces and i think of these scammers they are stealing from them. they are survivors of this tragedy. >> the f
one week left before the country goes over the fiscal cliff. your taxes will soar if congress and the president can't reach a deal. so steve is live for us in washington with the very latest. all right, good morning to you, steve. >> good morning, gretchen. yeah, the house as you know, tried and failed to pass some kind of a compromise on that fiscal cliff. now the spotlight falls on the u.s. senate. some kind of deal could have a better chance there because the senate is not as bitterly divided as the house. success depends partly on whether mitch mcconnell decides to filibuster any legislation. there is senate republicans who are willing to compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. including kay bailey hutchison of texas and johnny isakson of georgia. >> time is running out. and the truth of the matter is, if we do fall off the cliff after the president's maturitied, he'll come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday in leaving washington and we'll end up adopting it. why should we put the markets mn such turmoil and the people in misunderstanding or lack of confi
are headed over the proverbial fiscal cliff. we say that because the senate hasn't voted on any kind of deal. you see it there live. and the house has said even if there is a deal, they're not going to bring any bill to a vote on this new year's eve. so the big question tonight, what impact will it have on every american? we have all of it covered, and we begin with nbc's kelly o'donnell for the latest from capitol hill. kelly? >> reporter: good evening, kate. well, congress is out of time, and frustrations are really running over. and while democrats and republicans say they want to find a solution and they are working toward that, they don't have a deal yet, and that means for now there is nothing to vote on before tonight's deadline. with your money on the line, tonight washington can only claim progress. but not success. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. >> we're very, very close. >> reporter: close comes after intense, closed-door negotiations that kept even most members of congress in the dark. the white house and se
heading back to washington tonight to restart the negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff. if mr. obama and congress can not agree on a stopgap measure, automatic hikes and spending cuts will hit americans jan 1. peter doocy live in washington with more on this peter, what is the latest? >> reporter: gregg, the president said on friday he would see it this week and maybe if lawmakers went back to home districts to drink eggnog and eat cookies and sing christmas carols maybe they would be more in touch with the hardship so many americans are going to face if the fiscal cliff is not avoided. >> there is a mismatch right now between how everybody else is thinking about these problems. democrats and republicans, outside of this town and how folks are operating here and we've just got to get that aligned. >> reporter: the president's wife and daughters are going to stay in hawaii to continue vacationing. we're told the president may rejoin them or he may not. it all depends on how negotiations progress in the next few days. gregg: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boe
congress members from their wages, and we would not have a fiscal cliff. before they went on their brakes and have their holiday, if you precluded if their compensation company would not have the fiscal cliff. they would have dealt with it before they left. host: some more economic headlines. here's the "washington times" -- so that some consumer news this morning. also, wall street journal has -- and this headline in the wall street journal -- ken in huntington, new york, republican caller. the minimum wage, should be increased by congress? caller: ianyway, i am a person who works part-time job at a supermarket bakery. even for me, and i am making above minimum wage, but even though i am making above minimum wage, i am only working part- time, so i am living not just from paycheck to paycheck but what is even worse is i find myself slipping between paychecks at times. host: does this grocery store have a policy of only having part-time workers? caller: no, we do have full-time workers, but a lot -- but right now i am only working part-time. host: got it. ann in athens, ohio, democratic c
the show for you so stay tuned. gregg: congress now on holiday break while the fiscal cliff deadline looms. by the way we just got an urgent bulletin. peter barnes at the fox business network, that administration officials say the staff discussions are continuing even though the president's in hawaii. most everybody is vacated the capitol. but we're eight days away until the spending cuts and big tax hikes kick in for every american and at this moment the negotiations really do appear to be at a standstill notwithstanding talks. there are serious questions whether a compromise could be reached. lawmakerses warn no deal could plunge our economy into recession. here is senator joe lieberman. >> it's the first time i feel it is more likely we will go over the cliff than not and, if we allow that to happen it will be the most colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history because of the impact it will have on almost every american. gregg: marjorie clifton, former consultant to the obama campaign and principal of clifton consulting a
. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. >> laura: so we should believe that by leaving his island enclave that the president was making some big sacrifice for the country? i'm thinking washington, crossing the delaware on a bitter christmas night 1776 before going on to defeat the british in two major battles, that's sacrifice. i, for one, never understood how in good conscious any of these politicians would think about leaving town with so much riding on this cliff hanger? shouldn't they get their work done before they leave town for a break? that's what's expected for most working americans but then again washington politicians have rules of their own. people whose salaries that we pay are called public servants. meaning they verve us. not the other way around. we don't work to make their lives better. they are supposed to make ours better. the operative word here being work. so muc
is prepared to step in today if congress can't get something together to deal with the fiscal cliff deadline just 14 hours away from now. an update from 1600 pennsylvania avenue moments away. >> well, it will be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000. so i'm not looking forward to that. >> is that more than you expected to go up january 1st. >> even a dollar's more than i can afford, yes. so not good news heather: thousands of first-responders are joining friends and family paying tribute to a hero firefighter gunned down in the line of duty. you're looking live at the scene. this is in webster, new york, where the funeral of getting underway. the 19-year-old volunteer was one of two firefighters shot and killed on christmas eve while responding to a fire set by gunman, william spengler. we well have much more on this coming up. we have potential breaking news. potential movement on the senate on the budget battle. brand new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. the number two in the republican senate sayin
at congress with distain and rightfully so. with the deadline on the fiscal cliff only hours away we've failed to reach a reasonable compromise to move the economy forward and ward off painful tax hikes on the middle class. >> reporter: so everybody is waiting to see if the senate can reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. it's not entirely clear when the house would act. i talked to a key leadership aide who he said if the senate passes a deal we could certainly signal that we will take it up perhaps tomorrow morning and that would keep everybody calm, but first things first, they need a deal, jon. jon: by my calculation they have less than 13 hours to accomplish that. mike emanuel, thank you. >> reporter: thank you, sir. jon: let's take a look at the dow with all this fiscal cliff nonsense going on. it's up, actually about 8 points right there as you can see. still down below 13,000, though, after heavy losses last week. very light trading also as you might imagine on this day before the market is closed for the new year's holiday. while congress cannot seem to agree on a fiscal cliff fix, it loo
. >> if president obama and congress aren't able to avoid the fiscal cliff people here in california will be hit especially hard because of prop 30 which was voted into law back in november. it will soon mean higher sales tax and higher income tax on the state's top earners. the fiscal cliff would add to that hitting all americans with higher taxes. >> i don't know, there's a word to describe how upset the public is going to be. nobody's going to be happy to see that happen. >> if taxes go up on everybody it's not going to be a happy time. but i think that's inevitably what's going to happen. >> they say the lowest income folks will see their take home pay shrink just over three and a half%. average earners 4% and top earners 6%. >> another sign the housing market is improving, the national association of realtors says pending home sales rose last month to the highest level in 2 and a half years. pending sales rose nearly 2% in november and that's the third month in a row it's gone up. >> amazon had a green christmas season. they announced the 2012 holiday sales were the biggest ever. they had s
are out there struggling and certainly they deserve congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff. which is why the president has been working to bring the leaders together. >> the way our system is supposed to work is the president is supposed to make a proposal and go across the country persuading the american people he is right. finos how to do that. then he sits down with us and we complain and adjust and amend it and bring it up on the floor and vote on it and pass it and get it resolved. that is what is supposed to happen and it can't start until the president make the proposal. rich: lawmakers are waiting to see how the meeting shapes up next hour and so are we. neil: john boehner can deliver his caucus without spending cuts and democrats can't come to the table must -- my hand a doing this, republicans agreed to tax increases. we are going over the cliff and that might be what both sides want. >> the possible scenario where if the market reacts negatively lawmakers would feel the rush to pass something else. it became clear after john boehner put on the table keeping tax r
get meaningful spending cuts, preserve entitlements back into the dialogue of this fiscal cliff debacle? >> well, i don't think we have it to encourage fiscal responsibility so much as we have it because it's required for congress to authorize borrowing money to pay our debt and deficit obligations. it's, the way i look at it, it is a mere constitutional technicality and we should raise it. i would like to make one point about on the downgrade issue that he just talked about. if we go over the fiscal cliff, that would certainly be no reason for a downgrade because we would be cutting the deficit and the debt. lori: right. >> but if we kick the can down the road here and don't do anything with a short-term solution, then i think it would be reasonable for the debt, excuse me for --. lori: another downgrade. >> for us to be downgraded, excuse me. lori: let me send it back over to you. there is a line of thinking if we do suffer a second credit downgrade that it could actually have more of ramification than just one downgrade because you do have a handful of credit agencies, right?
possible effect of the fiscal cliff milk prices goodbye to about $2 or $3 a gallon because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. >> tributes are pouring in for the general who led the international coalition that drove sadaam hussein's forces out of kuwait in 1991. norman schwarzkopf died yesterday in tampa, from complications from pneumonia. he was 78. he had an extensive and celebrated military career. he kept a low profile during his retirement, supporting charities and resisting offer to run for public office. former president george h. w. bush remains in intensive care at a hospital in houston. his spokeswoman says he's getting excellent medical treatment. she says he would advise people to "with the harps back in the closet." he was admitted to the hospital november 23 and has been in intensive care since sunday, battling a terrible case of bronchitis and a series of complications. secretary of state clinton is expected to return to work next week after recovering from a concussion she suffered after fainting while fighting. a stomach fighting she's an hour at three wee
of banished words this year. numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally dysfunctional right now and this is just probably the worst example of it. you know, i heard speaker boehner say a number of times that he doesn't believe in compromise and a lot of republicans say the same thing. they say let's find common ground and act on that. well, there just isn't much common ground. if, in fact, the numbers we're hearing about the senate deal, whether $450,000 threshold or $550,000, that is not a matter of principle. that's just a matter of policy and splitting hairs and differences of dollars. so i think unfortunately we've got a lot of people on the other side of
will not be in tomorrow. so congressional leaders can focus on work on the fiscal cliff. some of the buzz around washington has been, if you look at what could possibly pass the house and sena, you're loing at perhaps an income threshold of about four to $500,000 a year, maybe less, to prevent those taxpayers, those amounts from having to pay additional taxes or watching their taxes go up. some of the other proposals on employment insurance. the doc fix, preventing doctors from getting a massive pay cut at the end of the year. right now congressional leaders will try to cobble something tother with democratic and republican votes that can pass both the house and senate. the next 24 hours on this one, adam, very critic. adam: rich, if it is just taxes and extension of unemployment benefits where do they get money to pay for unemployment benefits? we're about to hit the debt ceiling and will have 110 billion in spending cuts come january 1? >> that is what makes this difficult. if the debt ceiling is part of this and there are no spending cuts this will not pass the house. i hear from congressiona
. >> reporter: meanwhile some senators are suggesting the only option now to avoid a fiscal cliff is a scaled-back deal to stop tax increases for most americans. we just hear heard heard ed elude to that. we are joined my jaime. what happens if the president and congress fail to reach an agreement on averting this so-called fiscal cliff? >> well, we go over it. you know, maybe the analogy of fiscal cliff that everyone is using might not be perfect because that doesn't end everything. there will be negotiations afterwards. in fact republicans who think that we are going overlook to the debt ceiling hike that will have to happen some time in the beginning of next year, perhaps at the end of january, or early february, at the point where negotiations will really pick up again, because they'll have some leverage there. there are reports out that some agencies, the defense department, that are facing these cuts as a result of the fiscal cliff are planning already ahead knowing that there will be negotiations afterwards if no deal is reached, and believing that some type of remedy will occur. they
. >>> consumer confidence has fallen because people are so worried about that fiscal cliff. the index has hit the lowest level since august. the concern is over tax increases and government spending cuts set to take effect january 1st if the white house and congress can't reach a deal. >> toyota is forecasting sales of nearly ten million vehicles next year and it's expected to reclaim the title of world's largest automaker. the company is on pace to sell 9.7 million this year which would put it ahead of gm. it would also be up 22% from last year when it was unable to meet demand arch its factories and suppliers were hurt by the quake, tsunami and natural disasters. >>> and toyota will reportedly play $1.1 billion to settle lawsuits over car that accelerated unexpectedly. toyota recalled 14 million vehicles around the world. the settlement still needs a judge's approval and toyota faces lawsuits over injuries and deaths the problem. >>> wells fargo doesn't have to pay $203 million to customers after a united states appeals court overturned a decision. the first ruling was ordered at the san f
on the fiscal cliff. let's bring in republican strategist. -- let's bring in a republican strategist. welcome back. >> good to be here. stuart: it looks like the republicans will get quite a bit of the blame regardless of whether we get a deal, no deal, or whether we go over the cliff. i think you will probably agree that short-term they get the blame. how about long-term >> look, this is obama's game. his game is he needs someone to blame. he had bush in his first term. now he's got the fiscal cliff. blame the republicans. and the truth is, in the short-term, the g.o.p. gets the blame. and they deserve it a little bit. but in the long-term, things change. stuart: you are a republican strategist. why do you say that republicans deserve some of the blame short-term? >> well, they deserve it the same way everyone in washington deserves it. no one in washington is incentiveized to think about the long-term. everyone is thinking about the short-term. by the way we see this in the private sector as well where companies think about, you know, the next quarter and never think about the long-term. th
that the house of representatives will reconvene sunday to have deal supposedly with the fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrials down by 150 points at one point recovered to lose just 18. the s&p 500 finished just two points lower. nasdaq down 4.25. congress department says sales of new homes went up almost 4.5% last month. that's the highest rate of growth in total sales in more than 2 1/2 years. that's it from cnbc, now back to "hardball." ♪ >>> if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl, and the republican party as it is today is incapable of competing at that level. >> welcome back to "hardball." newt gingrich's reverence for hillary clinton is certainly a long way from the near contempt republicans held for her back in the '90s. even as a senator hillary clinton was close with some high-profeel republicans. she had friends up there. this archival l.a. times story's headline the secret friendship of hillary clinton and john mccain. but
the fiscal cliff deadline just in the nick of time. if not, the consequences will be severe. more than a half trillion dollars in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, not that lawmakers are necessarily feeling the urgency. congress is at least officially in session today but house members, most still at home haven't even been called back to the capitol. aides on both sides including republican leaders haven't spoken in days. >> washington remains in the same fiscal cliff clitalks. >> reporter: senator leader harry reid and john boehner are both frosty saying it's in the other guy's court saying to avert the largest tax hike in history and reid saying it's time for house republicans to put middle class families first. >> if we go past no deal, the markets are likely to decline in a significant way and involve most americans and they don't want to have themselves blamed for that. >> reporter: already stocks have dropped three days in a row over fiscal cliff fears. from wall street to main street, it is building. >> both parties to are to blame if they don't come up with something. >> we are r
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